Saturday, March 27, 2010

More on Health Care

I've had some response to yesterday's comments about the new Health Care bill, especially after I mentioned on Facebook that my optometrist said that in any country where socialized medicine had been tried it was a terrible failure. The Brits are up in arms.

HTML clipboardMy friend diane, in England, is indignant at my optometrist's suggestion that socialized medicine doesn't work.

What piffle he's talking! all you need to do is talk to my parents' generation - who remember life BEFORE the NHS when children died because parents couldn't afford to call out the doctor - or, who, like my uncle, were born with preventable disabilities such as cerebral palsy because of problems during a birth. I remember being horrified as a child when I was told that my grandparents could not afford to send for the doctor when my grandfather got ill (and subsequently died of pneumonia) because you had to *pay* for one!

The NHS is the safety net for all of us when it comes to life threatening and long term conditions - there is nothing stopping anyone having private health insurance on top of that, and some companies provide it too, but on a few occasions when we needed to see specialists we were told by the GP that the NHS route was just as fast - for a few other non life threatening things (back pain, hip replacements etc) people often go private.

From my friend Sian, in Scotland:
With my various chronic health conditions (since childhood) there is no way my quality of life would be as good in the US as it is in the UK. I would be unlikely to get proper cover for the long term conditions or the insurance would be so high I wouldn't be able to pay it. I have complete peace of mind that I can walk into my Doctor's surgery and get diagnostic tests, treatment and repeat medication FREE (currently in Scotland prescription charges are being phased out). Most people in the UK cannot begin to understand the situation in the US!
In the UK there are regular screening programmes free to everyone (breast screening for example). A friend is diabetic and as well as all her medication she gets free dietitian advice, free regular chiropody, free eye checks all on a regular basis as well as regular visits to the nurse. What else - oh yes another friend had her young daughter (under 5) in hospital for five weeks and the mother had accommodation provided within the hospital for the whole time - free. I know two people who have been medically evacuated by helicopter, one chap then had major heart surgery, physiotherapy and regular checks.... all free. And then there's free nursing care for te elderly in Scotland...... shall I go on? OK we "pay" for it through our taxes but as we've discussed before there is almost parity with our taxes, but the US spend more on defence....... "
From a fellow in Canada:
My Canadian Healthcare may not be perfect, but I really enjoy the peace of mind knowing that whenever any of us gets sick or injured, there is health care available at no extra charge. Go to the hospital, go to a clinic... oh sure, you might have to pay parking or prescriptions, but that cast on your broken leg - NO CHARGE, having professionals help deliver your baby-NO CHARGE, major operations - NO CHARGE, vasectomies - NO CHARGE. Peace of mind....
A Canadian woman chimes in:
That the nonsense I hear people spouting about Canadian healthcare is just that -- nonsense. It's not perfect, but it's a heck of a lot more perfect than the U.S. system. Your opthalmologist couldn't be more wrong!
Another Canadian woman made this tongue in cheek comment after being chided for spelling "neighbour" with a "u"
I spell neighbour correctly, just like I spell colour, cheque and grey correctly. You're just jealous that with all of the health care savings we Canadians have due to universal healthcare we can afford extra letters for our words.
And one more Canadian speaks up:
While far from perfect I would NEVER trade for your system even if I had all the money to buy the best coverage. Not when that coverage could be revoked at their whim!
As for waits, well depending on your area that can be bad but urgent cases do get seen quickly. Usually. You hear the odd horror story but compared to your horror stories, again I wouldn't trade.
For routine screenings you just know you need to book months (or years) in advance. But there is no "can I afford" a mammogram or colonoscopy. I've had many of the former and two of the latter and you have enough on your mind when being tested without worrying about money and coverage.
As for "letting the government" decide what health care you get, I'd far rather that than letting some guy in a cubicle decide. The government is responsible ultimately to the voters (us!). The cubicle guy is responsible up the chain which ends at the SHAREHOLDERS. Which system will yield better results?
Of course this isn't going to be true socialized medicine, but it's gotta be better than what we have, especially for those uninsured and those with pre-existing conditions. So for all the nay-sayers, I say let's give this a chance. Who knows? We just might find out that we LIKE it!

We are headed off to Santa Barbara in the morning for Brianna's 2nd birthday -- We didn't realize this would also be a "visit grandma in the hospital" visit. (We are so fortunate to have friends who are able to move into our house and take care of all the dogs while we are away. Last time we were away, Ashley moved in with her dogs and foster dogs and at one point there were ten dogs here!)
We will be staying at Walt's sister's house in Santa Barbara, but she isn't there. The house flooded a month ago and she and her husband moved to a hotel while repairs are being made. Because of that, I don't know what kind of wifi access I'm going to have and so don't know when journal entries will be posted. I may have to post all journals from nearby Borders, which isn't such a bad thing!

5 comments:

sara said...

Thank you for this! When I saw 'sicko' I remember thinking, "I don't want anything less than what they have in England, Canada, etc." But it never would have passed, and this is a great start. I was teary-eyed watching President Obama signing the bill with a huge grin, and so happy for everyone who worked so hard on it. Hallelujah!!!

Bev Sykes said...

I had the same reaction, tears streaming down my face watching him sign the bill.

Jenne' R. Andrews said...

thanks for this-- I posted about this this week on my blog at http://www.loquaciouslyyours.com -- would love to have you stop by.....

jon said...

Mingle****
My next door neighbor is moving back to Canada for the health care. He couldn't afford it here. He became a citizen then he got Cancer.

I know another of an American citizen who have paid for health insurance all his life but when he got Cancer
they said, "Sorry, We will send some flower to your funeral."
I don't think they did.
Best health care plan in the world indeed.

jon said...

Healthcare:An American tragedy
read this.


http://www.pressrepublican.com/archivesearch/local_story_229215116.html

http://www.pressrepublican.com/archivesearch/local_story_019230113.html